Third Position
Hi David,
I've just started to dig into third position Are the chords for third position as follows :
I Chord IV Chord V Chord
D 1 4 8 G 2 6+ 9+ A 3'' 6 10
F 2' 5 9 B 3 7 10 C 1+ 4+ 7+ 10+
A 3'' 6 10 D 1 4 8 E 2+ 5+ 8+
C 1+ 4+ 7+ 10+ F 2'' 5 9 F 2' 5 9
Is rolling rhumba version one played in the middle octave so there are no bends compared to second position where there would be.
I'm getting quite confused with third position.
Thank you,
Paul
Thank you Marc, you're right on the money
Those are all minor chords. In a more common, major key blues the chord tones are as follows:
I7: D, F#, A, C
IV7: G, B, D, F
V7: A, C#, E, G
3rd Position is more commonly played in major (the chords that timeistight outlined), but you're correct Paul, 3rd Position is also a great choice for playing in minor. Any position can play in major or minor, it's just that 3rd Position does is it fairly easily.
On the I chord, it's actually D F# A C. The V chord is A C# E G. This is because the creation of how chords are created from the scale.
The key of D has two sharps, so the key of D is: D E F# G A B C#. This follows the formula of wholes and halves for any scale: W W H W W W H. (Please review David's Music Theory lesson if you struggle with the creation of scales or of chords. I believe this is Music Theory 1.)
Dave can probably explain this better than me, but let me give it a try:
The I chord is D F# A C. If you are on the I chord and you use the draws on 4, 5, and 6, you are playing the notes D F A. So you are naturally hitting a flat third, so it lends it a bluesy quality.
Compare to second position. You would have to play 2 3' 4 to get a similar effect. Third position gives it to you with no bend! Free bluesy note.
As far as 3rd position, I think you should watch the videos titled "Intuitive Approach". Play around with it, as Dave suggests, and then study a lot of songs. Don't overthink it. You'll start to get the feel, in time.